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FW: defective S24 VME 524-6000-F02-00/ S24 VME,6u,7-SL,250w



Hi Peter,
Please read below from my technician.  He has provided some very helpful
information.

Patty Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: Brown, Darryl 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 7:14 AM
To: Smith, Patty
Subject: RE: defective S24 VME 524-6000-F02-00/ S24 VME,6u,7-SL,250w


Patty

Based on the symptoms presented, it would appear to be a potential
power supply ripple/noise problem on the +5V.  They will want to 
proceed with scope measurements on the supply inputs to the 
backplane. I would recommend the following scope settings:
Horizontal Sweep @ 2mS, Vertical @ 20mV, Bandwidth limit @ 20 MHz.
The noise and ripple should be 50mV or less per the VME spec.
Typically, bit errors start to occur when the noise gets above 
90-100 mV unless the boards are particularly sensitive.

When the measurement is made, it is very important that the probe
ground lead be as short as possible as the ground lead will act as
an antenna and pick up radiated noise in addition to the actual 
conducted noise/ripple component. See the attached photo for an 
example of a typical measurement technique at the backplane.

If they do find excessive noise on the +5V and do not want to return
right now. I would suggest that they try adding decoupling
capacitors across the +5V and Return power bolts on the backplane.
I would start with a .1uf and a 10-50uf(low ESR).






-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Kammel [mailto:kammel@npl.uiuc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:18 PM
To: Smith, Patty
Subject: defective S24 VME


Dear Patty,

Thanks for your help.

Peter

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Symptoms:

During data tranfer, we are losing bits. When testing
the same VME module in two different VMW crates, there
were no problems. Another VME modul showed similar
bit erros sitting in the tracewell crate.

Tests thus far:

We have checked the power supply dc voltage and all were
ok. We have not looked by scope yet, to check for excessive
AC noise.

We would very much appreciate advice on other checks we
could perform. The VME is located at an experiment in
Switzerland, where there is a local electronics group
which could perform checks. Alas they don't have VME
modules and software to run backplane tests.


Prof. Peter Kammel  /  pkammel@uiuc.edu
Department of Physics, Loomis Laboratory
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
1110 West Green Street, Urbana, IL 61801
Tel (217) 333-5424 / Fax (217) 333-1215

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