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Re: Humidity calibration



Dear Sasha,

your new proposal sounds much more convenient for our situation.

I called Keller AG, and got a prize tag of CHF 1200 for the 
specifications below
(0.01% precision). They will send me an offer.

I think we should pursue our humidity calibration plans according to 
this line.

With best regards

Claude

Alexander Vasilyev wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
>  
>
> before proposal about humidity sensor calibration I assumed that 
> separator will finish its job this year. If not, we CAN NOT 
> disassemble separator - no questions!
>
>  
>
> In this case the most easy way for calibration is to use as a source 
> of cold liquid nitrogen. The temperature is suitable. All 
> instabilities will be corrected by the Xe pressure stabilization.
>
>  
>
> So, I can start production of the independent system for the 
> calibration. I hope I can use current CRDF for it (if collaboration 
> agrees).
>
>  
>
>   1.  Vacuum chamber with liquid nitrogen volume, Cu heat bridge, Xe 
> volume, H2 heatexchanger.
>
>       about 1000 Eur manpower and 700 Eur materials.
>
> 2.  1 cryogenic  Pt 100 - Claude has it.
>
> 3.  1 pressure sensor for Xe. We can not use pressure sensor from H2 
> lines. It means we have to buy it.
>
>  
>
>     http://www.keller-druck.com/picts/pdf/engl/33xe.pdf
>
>  
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>     If we can buy PPA 33X for 10 bar with RS485 and "extra precision" 
> we can make unic measurements with absolute calibration of humidity 
> sensor on the level +/-3% at 20-30 ppb.
>
>    Could I ask you to get offer from Keller? 
>
> 4. We will not use differential pressure sensor form the separator. 
> Exist another methods to control the system.
>
> 5. Electronics from separator will control the humidity calibrator. 
> Nothing new exept software (Peter's job) and cabling.
>
> 6. Job with humidity calibration will take 2 weeks of 3 persons (I, 
> Marat and Peter).
>
>  
>
> This job can be done  in Gatchina before the end of September and in 
> October in PSI.
>
>  
>
> I really think that we have to do it! This method will be MORE precise 
> then in the firm which produced humidity sensor. The reason is very 
> simple, we have to calibrate in a VERY narrow range at OUR conditions 
> (10 bar of hydrogen) with OUR electronics. Real conditions and 
> electronics can produce additional errors.
>
>  
>
> With best regards   Sasha.
>